In this week’s edition of Tirade Tuesday, we take a look at the ‘State’ of Oklahoma, both through the two schools residing in Oklahoma’s physical state and through the mental state of fanbases who wear Crimson and Cream or America’s Brightest Orange.
Both the Sooners and the Cowboys are coming off crushing losses at the hands of Baylor and Kansas, respectively, and with that they are starting to fade into obscurity.
Oklahoma was mathematically eliminated from the Big 12 contest with defeat this week, although they would never get there playing with the quality of defense they have.
Oklahoma State, meanwhile, will need to win each of their next three games to have a chance of breaking in, but are we confident they can win even one of those games with the way they’ve appeared in each of the last two weeks?
Let’s check out the fanbases and see how things are going for Norman and Stillwater.
Earlier Schooner in Shambles
After a 38-35 loss to Baylor, Oklahoma is 5-4 in nine games and 2022 now marks the first time since 2014 that OU has lost more than twice in a season. In fact, in every year since 2014, the Sooners have lost exactly two games. This is not relevant, just an odd statistic.
Since Bob Stoops took over the Oklahoma show in 2000, the Sooners have been a model of consistency. In 18 of the last 22 years, OU has won double-digit games, but for the fifth time in 23 years, that won’t happen at Norman. No, statistically speaking, Oklahoma has had a “rebuild” year for about three years. Since 2000, on average every five years, the Sooners will lose four or five games and turn things around the following year. In 2022, OU was entering its eighth year without making it, so naturally it was bound to happen.
Well, if you ask PicklemansCafe69 on the Oklahoma’s Rivals message board, that’s not what’s happening. No, the Sooners are paying for their sins and are ready to enter the dark ages of Oklahoma athletics.
there is an the whole group of individuals (pretty vulgar, I might add) that they are ready to sell Brent Venables down the river, for the second time, no less, because their defense “shits”.
Yes, the same defense that took Clemson to two national championships and was in the top 10 statistically almost every year that Venables called a defense in Clemson, South Carolina. Perhaps this is not a schema issue, but a personnel issue in a coach’s first year (is that too rational?).
Fans earlier were supposed to have a bad year and they’re not taking it very well. Although, how can they be expected to act? They have won the Big 12 title 15 times in the last 22 (become 23) years.
The Cowboys’ “Culture Problem”
The Oklahoma State Cowboys have won more games in the last decade than 120 other FBS shows. Between 2012 and 2021, Oklahoma State won 90 games, which ranks 10th in the nation, just behind Oregon (91) and tied with LSU (90).
Pokes coach Mike Gundy has built a program that has stood the test of time and since taking office in 2005, OSU has been to a bowl game every year (without the first). This is a sign of a strong culture and one of the most underrated programs in the country, which seemingly does more with less each year.
However, after two bad losses, the most recent being a 37-16 loss in Kansas, pokefan4life believes there is a culture problem in Stillwater and that Gundy has lost his team.
Osucowboys344 agrees and says any good trainer will “beat Gundy to a pulp”.
I would say Mike Gundy is one of the best coaches in America, and he’s just a year away from a 12-2 season and a Fiesta Bowl win. How the hell is there a culture problem in Stillwater? Here’s an idea: Maybe last year’s roster and staff turnover was too much to overcome in an offseason?
If you want to argue that Gundy should change his mindset towards the portal, or something along those lines, then I’ll listen. But simply putting a sticker on the issue and calling it a cultural problem is lazy fandom. Be thou better.
Bedlam is coming up next weekend, and one of those teams will have to miss another game, which means the fanbase will likely end up here, but until then let’s hope things get better in the Panhandle state.